Did you mean this : vicarious experience ?
Trustee Panel Discussion 2012 February 06, 2013

... he couldn't do, he would roll me in anyway. So, it was a vicarious experience, but it was a very important for for John and ... I agree with that. [everyone laughs] Bruce would be the vicarious experiencer and come back and tell John. [00:33:52.27] read more...

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